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Forum - Smoking Ban In SC;Ok Have We Gone Too Far?

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Smoking Ban In SC;Ok Have We Gone Too Far?
12pleaseu
05/21/08 23:47
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I was listening to the local news as I usually do sometimes. This time, something caught my attention that I had to hear more about it. I don't know all the particulars about it all; but I will tell what I know for now.
I heard on the news that there was a vote for a ban on smoking in public places and even in the bars in SC. I can understand some of the problems with some people that want to have a meal without smoke around them. How in the world does a bar fit into the equation? Bars usually have smoking and drinking in them anyway. When you think of a bar; you think of drinking,smoking, and of course a good time. So, I wonder about why they also included bars in this ban. I guess I will hear more on the news about it soon. There are definately going to be some people in the bars that surely won't like it. I don't smoke myself because that's my choice not to do so. I usually don't have any problems with others smoking in public places because usually there are not that many of them around. I usually see smokers go outside and smoke rather than smoke in restaurants or stores. I can see both sides of the situation; but my goodness; banning it out of bars; I'm not too sure about that.


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daka1
05/22/08 03:21
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Arizona voters approved a state-wide ban on smoking in public places a year-and-a-half ago, and it's been in place now for just over one year. I'm glad to be able to go into businesses without having to inhale smoke.

Strip clubs are so much nicer now that people smoke outside, in an enclosed smoking patio.


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12pleaseu
05/22/08 14:08
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quote "daka1" :
Arizona voters approved a state-wide ban on smoking in public places a year-and-a-half ago, and it's been in place now for just over one year. I'm glad to be able to go into businesses without having to inhale smoke.

Strip clubs are so much nicer now that people smoke outside, in an enclosed smoking patio.

Hi daka1,
I don't mind the ban myself. I was just curious about it all and wanted to report what I heard. The enclosed smoking patio is a very good thing too. I also don't understand why I got points taken off on this post. I try very hard to be honest,caring, and understanding of others and I am not putting down anyone in this post. I just wanted to understand things a little better and get others opinions on it. I hope that you daka1 and others please understand that I care very much for others even if I am a world away from you and others.


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Letusdoit
05/22/08 16:58
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Don't they anticipate separate bars for smokers? Or at least separate rooms or patios.
 
12pleaseu
05/22/08 17:32
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quote "Letusdoit" :
Don't they anticipate separate bars for smokers? Or at least separate rooms or patios.

Hi Letusdot,
I don't know for sure yet. The news has not said much about it except that there was voting for a ban on smoking in public places and bars too. The vote was almost unanimous for the ban. It would be a good thing for seperate rooms or patios for those who smoke. I don't know if SC will invest in that though because of the economy in SC. Hopefully, they will come up with something fair for both non smokers and smokers.


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paulh50
05/22/08 23:22
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Smoking has been banned in Cali in resturants and bars for years. Now cities (Berekeley and Davis) are pushing to have it banned in public, altogher. If you are caught smoking in a car, with a child in it you can be sited.
Here is some info on stopping smoking on the web:

Researchers say smokers tend to quit in groups
By ALICIA CHANG, AP Science Writer - Thu May 22, 4:45 AM PDTProvided by:

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Turkish students light up in Istanbul in January 2008. A law banning smoking in public places has come into effect in Turkey -- a country where nearly two-thirds of men smoke.(AFP/File/Hocine Zaourar)
LOS ANGELES - The urge to smoke is contagious, but quitting apparently is, too. A team of researchers who showed that obesity can spread person-to-person has found a similar pattern with smoking cessation: A smoker is more likely to kick the habit if a spouse, friend, co-worker or sibling did.

What's more, smokers tend to quit in groups and those who don't stop puffing increasingly find themselves pushed to the edge of their social circles, the researchers found.

"Your smoking behavior depends upon not just the smoking behavior of the people you know, but also the people who they know" and so on, said Dr. Nicholas Christakis, a medical sociologist at Harvard Medical School and lead author of the new report.

The findings back up previous studies showing that peer influence plays a key role in people's decision to stop lighting up and provide evidence that the "buddy system" used by smoking cessation, weight loss and alcoholism programs to change addictive behavior works.

"Anecdotally, we hear people say they quit smoking because their spouse or friend quit," said Jennifer Unger, a smoking prevention expert at the University of Southern California who had no role in the study. "If you influence a few people, those people might go on to help others to quit."

Last year, Christakis and his colleague James Fowler of the University of California, San Diego, published a study suggesting that obesity can spread among friends, much like an infectious disease. The duo mined data from a large social network of people who had been followed for three decades and found that when one person gained weight, close friends tended to pack on the pounds, too.

Their latest study, which appears in Thursday's New England Journal of Medicine and is funded by the National Institute on Aging, focused on people's smoking habits in the same social network.

The researchers examined the social lives of 12,067 people in the Framingham Heart Study, which has been tracking the health of residents of that Boston suburb from 1971 to 2003. They were able to reconstruct people's ties to one another since participants had to list contact information for their family, friends, co-workers and neighbors so researchers would not lose track of them over the years. The prevalence of smokers in the Framingham study over the years mirrored national trends.

Not surprisingly, the greatest influence was seen in close relationships. When a spouse stops smoking, the other partner is 67 percent less likely to smoke. Similarly, when a friend quits, the odds of the other continuing drops by 36 percent. The odds are similar among co-workers and siblings.

People who were connected to others by up to three degrees of separation were also influenced. If one person quits, the odds of a person two degrees apart stopping is 29 percent. In a three-degree separation, the chances are 11 percent.

"One person in the group gets the motivation to quit and it starts to cascade and ripple through the group," said Fowler.

Jill Palmer, 28, was a one-pack-a-day smoker until she checked into a cessation program last year at the University of Wisconsin, Madison where she works. She took nicotine gum and worked with a counselor to set a "quit date."

Several days after Palmer went smoke-free, her husband threw away his last pack.

"It was spurred by my timing. He didn't want to be a smoker anymore," said Palmer, who credits her nonsmoking co-workers with persuading her to enroll in the cessation program.

The researchers also found, by analyzing random samples of smoking clusters, that whole groups became nonsmokers over time. People who remained smokers found themselves moving to the fringe of their social circles.

Cigarette smoking kills about 400,000 people in the United States every year, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. About 45 million U.S. adults are smokers, though the prevalence has fallen dramatically since the 1960s.

Stanley Wasserman, an Indiana University statistician who studies social networks, noted that while the study was cleverly done, it does have its limitations.

Wasserman said it's hard to tease out whether social influence is mainly responsible for a whole group kicking the habit. Other factors such as public bans on smoking or studies highlighting the harmful effects of smoking may also play a role.

"You can't prove it with this data," he said. "You have to go to people and ask, 'Why did you stop smoking?'"

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On the Net:

New England Journal: http://www.nejm.org

Framingham Heart Study: http://www.framinghamheartstudy
 
12pleaseu
05/22/08 23:53
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Wow Paul; thanks so much for this information. It is very helpful to know and pass along to friends as well. I am so glad that I don't smoke. I tried smoking when I was 21 years old for about 6months and thankfully; I quit smoking. I didn't smoke for long at all; and I am thankful that I just didn't want to smoke anymore. I even bought a pack of cigarettes a few months after I quit and tried to smoke one in the place that I had just moved to on my own. The very first puff I took from the cigarette made me cough so much. I put the cigarette out, flushed every last one of them down the toilet, and threw away the pack that they were in. After that, I didn't want to smoke ever again.
I understand that it is so hard to quit smoking for people who have smoked for years and years. I am very thankful that I didn't want it anymore.


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Kotikkk
05/24/08 18:46
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quote "12pleaseu" :
The news has not said much about it except that there was voting for a ban on smoking in public places and bars too. The vote was almost unanimous for the ban. It would be a good thing for seperate rooms or patios for those who smoke.


Good! People got fed up with this poisonous smoke (as I know, passive smokers also suffer very much) and worked well on this. I wish my compatriots were so conscious. But I completely agree that some separate places for smokers are needed in fact. It certainly would make the ban less breakable.


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Letusdoit
05/26/08 16:44
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Is that ban only on tobacco products or smoking is fully prohibited?
 
12pleaseu
05/26/08 18:30
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quote "Letusdoit" :
Is that ban only on tobacco products or smoking is fully prohibited?

I think that it's on smoking inside public places like restaurants,bars,and other places like stores. People can still smoke; they just can't do it inside public places. I haven't heard much else in the news about it in the last few days.


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Letusdoit
06/02/08 15:02
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I meant if all products for smoking are prohibited or maybe there are some places where you're allowed to smoke marijuana cigarettes. Of course if they are not completely forbidden in SC.
 
12pleaseu
06/03/08 01:43
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quote "Letusdoit" :
I meant if all products for smoking are prohibited or maybe there are some places where you're allowed to smoke marijuana cigarettes. Of course if they are not completely forbidden in SC.

Hi Letusdoit, Smoking and/or having marijuana is against the law in SC and; if anyone is caught smoking or having it in their possession in SC can be arrested and put in jail. Smoking cigarettes in SC is not against the law though.


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Lonelitude
06/03/08 20:49
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Are there any states in US where this weed is legal like in Holland?
 
12pleaseu
06/03/08 23:27
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quote "Lonelitude" :
Are there any states in US where this weed is legal like in Holland?

Hi Lonelitude,
As far as I know; it is illegal in most places in the US. There may be a few places in California and a few other states; where patients who suffer from severe complications with their health can only get it prescribed by their doctor as medicinal marijuana.


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Kotikkk
06/05/08 14:22
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Wow! The US are quite more severe in such things than good old Europe.
:D


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